[RE-wrenches] Battery Warranty Question (was Li-I question)

[Chris Mason]

We are a Generac generator sales and service dealer and Generac has a rate
table for warranty replacements. They pay us to fix their problems. One
reason for this is that you can purchase the generator form Home Depot and
still get warranty from any dealer.


On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Howie Michaelson <howie at suncatchervt.com>wrote:

> Hi Ray,
>
> I have never received compensation for installation time on warranty
> replacements.  Is this something you commonly get?  From whom?
>
> Thanks,
> Howie
> --
> Howie Michaelson
> NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™
>
> Catamount Solar, LLC
> Renewable Energy Systems Sales and Service
> VT Solar Electric & Hot Water Incentive Partner
> http://www.CatamountSolar.com
> 802-272-0004
>
>
> On Fri, September 20, 2013 12:50 am, Ray Walters wrote:
> > Looks interesting,  I've been waiting for Li+ to start making sense on
> > larger scales.
> > The cycle life does not appear to be better than a HUP lead acid
> > battery, despite the claims of "10 times the cycle life of an AGM
> > battery"  I'm confused because in their white paper they also claim: 200
> > cycles at 100% DOD < 2000 cycles at 80% DOD > 3000 cycles at 80% DOD.
> > What does that mean?
> > Also the warranty has 3 yr free replacement, 10 yr prorated, but doesn't
> > cover shipping or installation, and also demands an engineering
> > evaluation of the installation to allow the warranty. Despite their
> > claims of being the most comprehensive warranty in the business; it is
> > not.
> > My entire power tool collection as well as my computer and phone run on
> > Li+, so I'm a believer, but I've also been vetting BS claims in our
> > industry for over 2 decades.  Corvus needs to put more time into some
> > BCI cycle life charts, and provide a warranty that covers shipping and
> > installation time like others.  Some case studies, and independent
> > testing would help as well.
> > Anybody have any ball park pricing on this?
> >
> > R.Ray Walters
> > CTO, Solarray, Inc
> > Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
> > Licensed Master Electrician
> > Solar Design Engineer
> > 303 505-8760
> >
> > On 9/19/2013 9:58 PM, Kevin Pegg wrote:
> >> These folks are real I've met with and touched the product. I've been
> >> working on a possible use of these but client hasn't said go yet so
> >> can't quite yet vouch for the product. http://www.corvus-energy.com/
> >> Kevin
> >>
> >>     -----Original Message-----
> >>     *From:* re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
> >>     [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org]*On Behalf Of
> >>     *Allan Sindelar
> >>     *Sent:* September 16, 2013 12:58 PM
> >>     *To:* RE-wrenches
> >>     *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Li-I question
> >>
> >>     Wrenches,
> >>     In order to provide accurate information about lithium-ion
> >>     batteries, I'm looking for referrals to current suppliers with
> >>     available product, with specifications and retail pricing
> >>     available. Having read Randy Richmond's article on Li-I in HP153
> >>     earlier this year and Dan Fink's posts here, I understand the
> >>     advantages and limitations. I am just looking for actual supplier
> >>     websites and contacts, please.
> >>     Thank you,
> >>     Allan
> >>     --
> >>
> >>     *Allan Sindelar*
> >>     _Allan at positiveenergysolar.com_
> >> <mailto:Allan at positiveenergysolar.com>
> >>     NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
> >>     NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional
> >>     New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician
> >>     Founder and Chief Technology Officer
> >>     *Positive Energy, Inc.*, a Certified B Corporation^TM
> >>     3209 Richards Lane
> >>     Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507
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Chris Mason
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