[RE-wrenches] 24V Rolls Charging Parameters?

toddcory at finestplanet.com toddcory at finestplanet.com
Mon Apr 29 19:52:14 PDT 2013


this is probably a hair brained question, but has anyone ever tried paralleling the connections within the series strings?
yes, more cables, but might this reduce the multiple parallel string unbalancing issues?
 
todd
 
 
 
On Monday, April 29, 2013 3:53pm, "Wayne Irwin" <wayne at pureenergysolar.com> said:



The system is pre-existing. This is a battery replacement only. I agree that fewer strings are best. The 8CS25 were the most AH for the money. However, the 12 - 8CS 25's is a big step up from the 32 - S530's (8 strings! and 96 holes to fill).
FYI. As a case study, the S530 bank was 6yrs old before showing signs of weakening and could probably keep going at least until warranty exp. Jan. 2014. Cable's and terminals were pretty clean, watered and eq'd regularly.

The 5 - CC design objective was to maximize efficiency and provide redundancy. 
System seems to have worked flawlessly for past 6 yrs. .
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From: bob-o at electronconnection.com
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:37:50 -0700
To: re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] 24V Rolls Charging Parameters?

Wayne,
In the first place, 4 parallel strings of anything is a very bad idea. Micro resistances in cabling and connections plus eddy currents and the like will, over time, inherently unbalance the pack. Doing frequent EQ charges will be required but will not overcome the inherently bad design of too many parallel strings. If you want to stay with Surrette, one string of 24  2-YS-31PS will give you about the same capacity in one tasty, electrically happy string. Lots more money, I get that, but that would be the ideal situation. As a fallback, do yourself a favor and spec out 12 of the 4KS-21PS so that you have just two parallel strings. Should even be a little less dough.
Jamie Surette ([mailto:james at surrette.com] james at surrette.com) is  usually pretty good at returning emails and calls. His would be, without doubt, your best opinion as to a proper charge regime for his batts.
Good Luck. If you go with four strings, you'll need it.
bob-O



On Apr 29, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Wayne Irwin wrote:

Hello Wrenches,

Please provide your opinions on the proper charging voltages (e.g. bulk, float, eq,), and recommended durations.

The bank consists of 12 - Rolls 8CS25P (820AH @ 20hr rate) (4 strings of 3). Design based partly on budget limitations.

FYI. The system is off grid and consists of an 8KW array, 2 - OB VFX 3524 Inv's. and 5 - OB MX80 CC's.

I have general parameters programmed based on AH's but would like to have additional opinions/suggestions to compare and/or see if there is something that I have missed.

I have not yet received any feedback from Rolls tech support ..... James?

Thanks in advance for your help,

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State Licensed Solar Contractor
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