[RE-wrenches] Business

[Kirpal Khalsa]

We have found the grid tie market to be more and more crowded with a race
to the bottom in terms of pricing and margins....we love battery based
systems....both grid tie and off grid.....its definitely less crowded
competition wise and we get more jobs because of the fact that we have
experience doing a lot of battery based systems.....
"Give the people what they want",
I personally like working in remote sites....some of our best jobs were way
in the boonies....beyond the end of the power lines and had incredible
swimming holes we could jump in during lunch break or were so far in the
woods we were stepping on wild mushrooms while setting up the array....at
the end of the day the tool pouches were loaded not must with tools but
also mushrooms!....
Do good work....that is what will keep you in business...batteries or
not....rich or poor, conservative or liberal...it don't matter the
background.....when they get to see their solar systems turn on the smiles
are a mile wide.....mine too!

Cheers,
Kirpal (aspiring solar hippy :-))

On Aug 17, 2013 8:42 AM, "Solarguy" <ntrei at 1scom.net> wrote:
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> > >> Funny reminds me of the old days,
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> I seem to recall a lot of years back, on this same discussion site, a
similar exchange. It seems that one installer was looking for advice
concerning an overly demanding customer with unreasonable expectations for
a PV systems performance.
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> The customer was the Dept. of Defense.
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> Opposing points-of-view questioned why any Wrench in their right mind
would waste perfectly good, and expensive, PV on someone whose goal was
world domination and death to all who opposed them. I’ll sell ‘em PV
because I’m in the business of selling PV was the response.
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> Other debates have sprung from Wrenches complaining that potential
customers have two SUVs parked in front of a 6500 sf home. These people
clearly don’t get it! Why should I waste PV on them?
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> The answer is always the same. Because it’s what we do.
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> McMansion owners and the DOD are now believers and established customers.
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> Now there is no one that wouldn’t agree that the growing exodus from our
decaying, congested and polluted urban metromess will not continue to
increase. It’s no different now than years ago. Sell them all the PV they
are willing to pay for but do it with unabashed honesty. And when they are
neck deep in challenges from their lifestyle decision, they will always
remember that you warned them that it would be like this. And they will
respect you for it if they have an ounce of integrity.
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> This new generation of get-out-of-town with their all-electric lifestyle
may be our next market segment to deal with. If you don’t want their
business then some other PV installer will. If the job’s done right the
first time it benefits us all. If not we all take one step back.
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> Our industry competition includes the coal, natural gas and electric
utility cartel. They and a lot of politicians, stand shoulder to shoulder
in opposition to individuals generating their own power. You had better
take every customer you can get and make a believer out of them because the
competition is doing everything they can to put up hurdles to PV growth.
>
> And because ours is one of those industries that trains-your-competition
it’s important that we train them to high standards. It’s not easy being a
pioneer.
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> Jim Duncan
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> From: re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:
re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Hilton Dier III
> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 9:13 AM
> To: RE-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org
> Subject: [RE-wrenches] PV Assist - customer management
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> This: "PS: the "good" customers are not necessarily the greenest people,
they are the ones that reduce consumption as best they can, do their
homework, trust me and pay on time."
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> I'd add, "and have a grasp on the realities of the situation."
>
> There are people who will never grasp that you can't consistently leave a
battery at 90% DOD for a week without shortening its life. Or that solar
irradiance drops in the winter. You can recite the facts to them and they
will nod and look like they are absorbing information, but memory fades and
a month later they will complain about the exact thing you explained to
them.
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> William, whatever you do with these clients, I recommend that you write a
short disclaimer about battery life and have them read it and sign it. "I
acknowledge that this particular design and implementation is not ideal for
long battery life. I do not expect the battery banks as installed and used
to last their advertised cycle life." Or something like that. When they ask
why you aren't designing it differently, quote them the price for a system
that would preserve the batteries. Pick their jaw up off the ground for
them, hand it back, and make them sign. At the very least it will put them
on notice that the reality of the situation is not ideal.
>
> Good luck.
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> Hilton
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> Hilton Dier III
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> Renewable Energy Design
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> Partner, Solar Gain LLC
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> 453 East Hill Rd.
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> Middlesex, VT 05602
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