[RE-wrenches] Any experience with off-grid oxygen concentrators?

Dan Fink danbob88 at gmail.com
Sat Apr 21 12:12:45 PDT 2012


Esteemed Wrenches;

One of our clients, 79 years old, has an off-grid cabin at 8200 ft
 altitude that he built and has been using on weekends since 1982. Due to a
heart condition, his doctor is now advising supplementary oxygen at 2
liters per minute only at night when he is trying to sleep. Not a life
threatening condition, but very uncomfortable (and no sleep) during a bad
night.

Does anyone here have any experience with clients who need to run oxygen
concentrators off the grid?

The power system is 12 volt, 4 x L16 batteries, Trace DR series inverter.
Not a lot of backup there. We can add more PV easily and cheaply, but would
prefer not to completely replace the battery bank. This is mostly a weekend
cabin, it doesn't NEED a big battery bank.

Of course the doctor, nurses, oxygen supply companies, insurance company
etc. don't even know what the words "off the grid" mean. My research so far
has shown that "Energy Star" ratings don't exist for O2 concentrators....
they assume that everyone has cheap, unlimited energy. I am seeing 280-550
watts load from non-portable units specs online. The portable O2
concentrators cost twice as much, and seem to work only off of their own
proprietary super expensive Li-ion battery packs, but only draw 75-150
watts...just barely in the range of the existing power system. Nobody in
the O2 business  seems to know if any of these can be powered directly from
the off-grid system (at either 120vac or 12vdc, he has circuits in each
room for both), as "off grid" is not in their lexicon. I just hate the idea
of using 2 battery banks -- the L16s to charge the Li-Ion? geez.

Just to add to the imbroglio, the health insurance company refuses to pay
for a (twice the price) "portable" O2 concentrator for a patient that only
needs it at night, sleeping. They do not seem to understand the words "off
grid", "watt hours" , "solar" and also seem to have no concept of either
"Energy Star" or "Efficiency". Having been off grid since 1991 myself, my
only response can be "Dumb townies!" but that doesn't help much. They don't
even know that "townie" is a perjorative up here....they probably think
it's a compliment!

Any help appreciated, thanks in advance, and I hope some other Wrench on
this list has dealt with this situation before so that maybe I can learn
from you.
-- 
Dan Fink,
Executive Director;
Otherpower
Buckville Energy Consulting
Buckville Publications LLC
NABCEP / IREC accredited Continuing Education Providers
970.672.4342 (voicemail)
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