[RE-wrenches] Solar gathering?

[William Miller]

Larry:

I don't think he said, "don't talk to them."  I think he said they are 
"still in training."

William


At 07:59 AM 10/9/2011, you wrote:
>Again, with all due respect, the don't talk to anyone with less than 50 
>installs is a bit extreme and quite frankly a little arrogant.
>
>
>Larry Liesner
>Wirewiz
>31 Lincoln St
>Westport, CT 06880
>Phone: 203-644-2404
><mailto:wirewiz at gmail.com>wirewiz at gmail.com
>www.wire-wiz.com
>
>
>
>
>On Oct 9, 2011, at 12:31 PM, North Texas Renewable Energy Inc wrote:
>
>>With all due respect to your experience in California Joel, total 
>>installations is not a very accurate indicator of ability in todays PV 
>>industry imho. A good start is how many years have you been in the 
>>business, really in the business. This does not include the PV pump in 
>>your koi pond but real verifiable, green-tagged installs. 20+ year 
>>electrical contractors with a half-dozen installs don't count either. 
>>NABCEP certification is another excellent filter but several ECs around 
>>here simply hired a NABCEP cert to be able to fly the logo.
>>
>>I have sat through Bill Brooks classes almost as many times as John Wiles 
>>classes. Just spent 8 hours in a James Stallcup Sr. class in  Austin 
>>Friday and had lunch Saturday with the 25 year Exec. Dir. of 
>><http://treia.org>treia.org. My www site doesn't emphasize the number of 
>>installs but it does show a list of training classes, and conferences etc 
>>I have attended over the last 18 years.
>>
>>I won't go into the politics of why Texas is a decade behind the leading 
>>edge of PV in the US but I probably don't have to when you consider our 
>>political situation here. And our working with TREIA at the state capitol 
>>for the last 6 years "greasing the skids" in favor of pro-RE legislation 
>>gives a whole new perspective on those politics. There's a reason SEIA & 
>>SEPA brought SPI to Dallas.
>>
>>And since you mentioned it, I don't know how many Wrenches will be at SPI 
>>in Dallas but be sure to check out the pulled pork sandwiches and 
>>"first-drink-free" meetup at Poor Davids Pub on the 19th from 6-9. It's 
>>sponsored by the Texas Solar Energy Society and it's just a couple of 
>>blocks from the big show. We'll be looking for NABCEP shirts.
>>
>>Jim Duncan
>>North Texas Renewable Energy
>>NABCEP Certified Solar PV
>>Installer No.031310-57
>>TECL 27398
>><mailto:ntrei at 1scom.net>ntrei at 1scom.net
>>817.917.0527
>>www.ntrei.com
>>
>>
>>Dear Jesse,
>>
>>1. Go to the Dallas solar exhibition and spend a lot of time on the floor
>>talking to real engineers with field experience (not salespeople). First
>>question to ask is "How many PV systems have you installed?" Anyone with
>>less than 50 systems under their belt is either reading from the book or
>>still in training.
>>
>>2. Attend a Bill Brooks training session. Bill has strong opinions that some
>>wrenches disagree with but has seen more PV installations than over 99% of
>>the people on Earth and has spend decades thinking about what is good and
>>bad PV.
>>
>>3. Meet with and walk the exhibit floor with and talk shop day and night
>>with as many wrenches as you can (at least 3 a day).
>>
>>4. Go to the exhibits all the time they are open and keep your ears open.
>>Wrenching is parts and the people who put parts together. Only go to
>>sessions and workshops when the exhibits are closed.
>>
>>5. Don't become a true believer in any one part or one way to put parts
>>together. There are many good and bad parts and techniques. The quest is
>>finding something better.
>>
>>Have fun.
>>Joel Davidson
>>"Not all change is for the better, but nothing gets better without change."
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