[RE-wrenches] DC Discos for Enphase
SOLARPRO at aol.com
SOLARPRO at aol.com
Tue Sep 14 21:20:27 PDT 2010
Matt:
Well, thankyou for showing me the dance steps.... but don't think I'll
stop worrying about this one. I doubt I'll ever bring a skillsaw into
Planning and Building, which is where the dance begins and usually ends. Besides,
I went cordless a looong time ago and all I ever carry into the inner
sanctum, the place where the meat hits the grinder, is a ten pound roll of plan
sets, my i-phone and a box of donuts. But I am so glad to know, per
690.17, that a connector which is listed as a connector can also be considered to
be listed as a dis-connector.
This just seems too logical.
Pat Redgate
(Yawn)
In a message dated 9/14/2010 11:48:12 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
gilligan06 at gmail.com writes:
Stir away....
Modern locking module connectors serve as DC disconnects for
micro-inverters. This point was alluded to in the Code Corner sidebar, but not addressed
in detail. It takes a little dance along Route 690 to drive the point
home to OCD-afflicted AHJs... But it's right there...
The simplest dance steps generally start with 690.14(A). This clause
specifically says disconnects don't have to be suitable as service equipment and
must comply with 690.17. 690.17 requires disconnects to be manually
operable switches or breakers that meet a host of requirements. And then there's
the exception, which throws all that out the window... Or off the roof, as
the case might be. (Exception: A connector shall be permitted to be used
as an ac or a dc disonnecting means, provided that it complies with the
requirements of 690.33 and is listed and identified for the use.) Listed and
identified as a PV connector meets this requirement.
As your AHJ is quivering with OCD discomfort... Quickly flip to 690.33 to
send him/her into full-on convulsions...
690.33 requires connectors to be polarized, noninterchangeable with other
stuff on the premises, guarded live parts, latching or locking, require a
tool to open, 1st make/last break grounding member and... Either be rated
for interrupting current without hazard to the operator OR require a tool to
open and marked "Don't open under load".
Demonstrate your compliance to the AHJ this way: Flip your module over,
grab both connectors, plug them into each other, yank on the wires to
demonstrate that a tool is required to open the connector, and flick the
sticker-tape labels that say "Do Not Disconnect Under Load". Hand the connection to
your AHJ. Make hm or her check it out closely. While he/she is examining
the connection, reconciling in their own head the irrational concept that a
disconnect doesn't have to be a switch here.... Turn the module to face the
sun and point out to them that they are now holding an energized dead
short. Just for fun :)
If they can't wrap their head around the concept, take them over to your
work truck. Pull out a skilsaw. Show them the nameplate amps and discuss the
power of the tool. Way more watts and higher voltage than your module.
Carry the thing over to a live receptacle, plug it in, squeeze and hold the
trigger, pull the plug out of the receptacle. Happens every day with all
kinds of tools and appliances. There's no label on the cord or receptacle to
say you can't...
Now compare this to your module connectors to demonstrate how much safer
and more effective the locking, labeled connectors are. Buried up there
behind the modules and all. Where only a qualified person can get to them.
Where, in the event of an emergency, shutting down the ac circuit reduces the
maximum potential current to one module. No matter how bad the fault is or
where it's located. Which is the lowest possible unit of energy in a modern
PV system. Can't get much safer than that!
Hope it didn't take too long to fall asleep...
Matt Lafferty
_gilligan06 at gmail.com_ (mailto:gilligan06 at gmail.com)
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Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:19 AM
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Subject: [RE-wrenches] DC Discos for Enphase
Howdy Wrench
I don't try to stir things up, but I was just wondering last night as I
fell asleep reading the latest issue of HomePower magazine (# 139), if anybody
else caught a chill when they read this in the Code Corner (highlighted in
a box):
"Both microinverters and microinverters attached to PV
modules in the field or in the factory that have any exposed
DC single conductor cables are required to meet all of the
NEC’s DC wiring requirements. These may include Section
690.5 ground-fault detector requirements, DC and AC
disconnect requirements (potentially handled by connectors
listed as disconnects), and inverter DC grounding-electrode
requirements."
- John Wiles
Which begs the question: Are <any> module connectors currently listed as
disconnects?
As well as: If DC voltages for each disconnect are less than 48 V, would
a simple switch suffice, should the poor hapless installer run into an AHJ
with OCD?
Patrick A. Redgate
AMECO Solar, Inc.
Serving Solar California
Since 1974
7623 Somerset, Blvd.
Paramount, CA 90723
562-633-4400
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