[RE-wrenches] Voltage discrepancy

Darryl Thayer daryl_solar at yahoo.com
Sat Aug 14 15:33:43 PDT 2010


HI Drake 
BE CAREFULL  I had a battery set explode on me due to a loose connection, it had been charging, and I was investagating and the loose connection sparked and BANG I was fortunatle to have my goggles on.  Besure to stop charging  then vent, then investiagate.  

Also I do not think the water loss is from the controller, question how often they run theri generator.  
Darryl

--- On Sat, 8/14/10, boB Gudgel <boB at midnitesolar.com> wrote:

> From: boB Gudgel <boB at midnitesolar.com>
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Voltage discrepancy
> To: "RE-wrenches" <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
> Date: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 5:10 PM
> Drake Chamberlin wrote:
> > boB,
> > 
> > Thanks,  I will check all connections when I get
> out there.  Is there anyway a loose connection could
> cook the batteries?
> 
> A loose connection, if it was like I described, would tend
> to under-charge the batteries.   I would
> think that
> if there were ~that~ much of a voltage drop, and
> significant current, you'd have a pretty hot connection
> somewhere.  Although, if the connection is bad enough,
> you might just get the CC to get to Absorb or
> Float voltage and that would at least limit the current but
> maybe not enough.. 
> Of course, loose connections may not be the problem, but
> that's what I look for first.
> I would measure the voltage at the CC terminal block and
> see if it is telling the truth.
> 
> If the CC is telling the truth, then she may have a bad
> connection, and  then
> it's Warning Will Robinson !!
> 
> Could be intermittent too.   Then ya may
> want to start wiggling and banging on things.
> It sure worked well with TV sets.
> 
> boB
> 
> 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > 
> > Drake
> > 
> > 
> > At 03:16 PM 8/14/2010, you wrote:
> >> Drake Chamberlin wrote:
> >>> I called her back just now, and the voltage
> readings on the Mate, MX and Trimetric all match. 
> Humm. 
> >>> The batteries are 4, 4 1/2 year old, U.S.
> Battery L-16s wired in 24 volt configuration.  It seems
> that I remember postings of Wrenches having problems with
> these batteries.  There is about 1 KW STC of PV on the
> roof.
> >> 
> >> Might want to be careful of loose
> connections.  Maybe the MX was putting out some
> high(ish) current and there
> >> was a voltage drop across that connection, and now
> they are reading the same because the current is
> >> lower from the MX.  i.e.  high voltage
> at the terminals of the CC and lower at the actual battery
> terminals.
> >> 
> >> boB
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> At 12:12 PM 8/14/2010, you wrote:
> >>>> Any way she can get a real
> voltmeter?  the MX60 has voltage calibration, so does
> the FX  it sounds like something is over charging,
> perhaps the generator run?   additonal
> details on battery bank size, array size and typical
> load.  Darryl
> >>>> 
> >>>> --- On *Sat, 8/14/10, Drake Chamberlin
> /<drake.chamberlin at redwoodalliance.org>/*
> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>     From: Drake
> Chamberlin <drake.chamberlin at redwoodalliance.org>
> >>>>     Subject:
> [RE-wrenches] Voltage discrepancy
> >>>>     To: "RE-wrenches"
> <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
> >>>>     Date: Saturday,
> August 14, 2010, 8:58 AM
> >>>> 
> >>>>     Hello Wrenches,
> >>>> 
> >>>>     I just got off the
> phone with an off grid system owner who has a
> >>>>     voltage
> discrepancy showing between the reading on her MX-60 and
> >>>>     both her Mate and
> Trimetric meter.  The MX-60 shows 28.8 V and
> >>>>     the Trimetric and
> the Mate both show around 25 volts.  The
> >>>>     batteries are
> using a tremendous amount of water.
> >>>> 
> >>>>     Has anyone seen
> this scenario before?  Do you think the MX-60 is
> >>>>     bad?
> >>>> 
> >>>>     Thanks,
> >>>> 
> >>>>     Drake Chamberlin
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