[RE-wrenches] Flashed Footing Requirements

Nick Soleil nicksoleilsolar at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 24 12:23:51 PDT 2010


I did a cost analysis between the TileTrac footings vs E-series Fastjacks with Oatey Solar Flashings, and found that the cost was less than $2 more.  That finding is encouraging me to default to FastJacks for my standard penetrations. 
Kirpal:
    Do you cut in the Quick Mount flashing, if not, it really isn't a flashing, because water can blow in the sides.  I tested a Quick Mount flashing once, and when I removed the lag, the stainless steel rivet that attached the sheetmetal to the base was broken/ seperated.  This made me concerned that Quick Mount was not a great solution.  Also, the QuickMount is $10 more than the FastJack with Oatey method.

 Nick Soleil
Project Manager
Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC
PO Box 657
Petaluma, CA 94953
Cell:   707-321-2937
Office: 707-789-9537
Fax:    707-769-9037




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From: Kirpal Khalsa <solarworks at gmail.com>
To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
Sent: Thu, June 24, 2010 10:16:54 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashed Footing Requirements

We are very impressed with the Quick Mount flashed brackets......they are a solid attachment with no chance at leakage if installed properly.  Easy to install, small number of tools required, and good quality.  Oregon rebate programs (where we are based) are requiring all roof penetrations/attachments to be flashed.  even though it is a bit more expensive, the flashed penetrations allow us to sleep well at night.  we have never had a call back due to a leak with a caulk and L foot attachment, but i would expect them to fail before the flashed attachments, and in the ~30 year life expectancy of the solar modules and possibly roof, I dont have that much confidence in caulking lasting that long, even though caulking hasn't failed in 10 years, I find it hard to believe that it will last 3 times that long.....i like the idea of all components having a similar life expectancy.  

Sunny Regards,
Kirpal Khalsa
NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer
Renewable Energy Systems
www.oregonsolarworks.com
541-218-0201 m
541-592-3958 o


On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Peter Parrish <peter.parrish at calsolareng.com> wrote:

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>IMHO the TileTrack >system for flat concrete tile or S-tile is the best approach there is. The 3/8” SS all thread can be accommodated by a ~3/8”
>hole in the tile, leaving an exceedingly narrow gap around the all-thread to caulk. 
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>track on comp-shingle or torchdown roofs, using instead Fast-Jacks and Oatey
>elastomeric flashing.
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>Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D.,
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>Solar Engineering, Inc.
>>820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065
>>CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26
>peter.parrish at calsolareng.com  
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>From:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org >[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Nick Soleil
>Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010
>5:10 PM
>To: RE-wrenches
>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashed
>Footing Requirements
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>Who can help:
>>    One of our local jurisdictions, City of Petaluma, is beginning to require flashed
>footings under all solar arrays.  I think that some flashed footings are
>better than the Unirac L feet or Prosolar's TileTrac foot, but the flashed footings cost a lot more $,
>and some flashed footing products seem flawed (less watertight)  They are
>asking me to uninstall two commissioned systems from last week, and replace the
>footings with flashed Fast Jacks, even though the documents detailed the
>penetration method.  
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>    I am looking for some good info that
>supports flexible installation methods, including caulked footings.  Our
>industry has come a long way from the early days of racking on slotted angle
>iron with steel L-brackets for feet, but those experiences tend to give me
>confidence in continuing to use caulked footings.  
>Nick Soleil
>>Project Manager
>>Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC
>>PO Box 657
>>Petaluma, CA
> 94953
>>Cell: 707-321-2937
>>Office: 707-789-9537
>>Fax: 707-769-9037
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