[RE-wrenches] low cost DAS systems

Philip Boutelle philboutelle at gmail.com
Tue Apr 13 12:36:40 PDT 2010


eGauge is not revenue grade, but could cover your requirements (1), (2), and
(2). The proprietor David Mosberger-Tang (davidm at egauge.net) is pretty savvy
with programming too, and he might be amenable to adding a programmable
alarm, since it is just software. Depending on how many loads you need to
monitor (how many CTs you need), parts would be in the $1,000 range.

Fat Spaniel could do all of it, but it can be difficult to get the attention
you need if the project has custom programming aspects. And you are stuck
paying a monthly fee for the life of the system.

Phil Boutelle

Project Engineer
NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer TM
Real Goods Solar, Inc.

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831.359.5268 mobile

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On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Peter Parrish <
peter.parrish at calsolareng.com> wrote:

> I am joining this thread a little late, so I may have missed a bifurcation
> into a related area.
>
> We have need for a DAS system that does the following:
>
> (1) Monitors inverter output, including some bigger commercial sized
> inverters from Satcon and SMA (100 kW to 500 kW)
> (2) Monitors utility input at service panel
> (2) Monitors several loads (up to five) via the service panel
> (3) Irradiance and temperature would be great but not absolutely necessary
> (4) Some sort of alarm system that would trigger at a programmable kW
> threshold for the utility input.
>
> What we are trying to do is monitor not only the PV system but the utility
> demand and key loads as well, and to come up with a strategy for shedding
> load to keep the demand below a certain amount.
>
> I know this is a fairly tough spec, and we may have to do some
> customization
> and/or programming to get what we want.
>
> - Peter
>
>
> Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
> [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Irish
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 12:37 PM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] low cost DAS systems
>
> The Locus system is less than $1,000 for single phase.
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
> [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of
> wlbryce at pineridgeproducts.com
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:50 PM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] low cost DAS systems
>
>
> I think the big this here is Low cost? Maybe we should define the price
> range so we can get a better fell of the product range?
>
>
> Logan
>
>
> > Chris,
> >
> >
> >
> > Locus Energy has a low cost, revenue grade system that will work with
> > all inverters.  We have several dozen deployed and they're working
> well.
> > Customer needs to have a high speed internet connection.
> >
> >
> >
> > www.locusenergy.com <http://www.locusenergy.com/>
> >
> >
> >
> > I've tried the TED and found it to be more of a toy than a serious
> > contractor product, although it may meet some user's needs.  The Locus
> > system is more accurate and robust, with much greater data storage.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeff Irish
> >
> > Hudson Valley Clean Energy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
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> > From: re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
> > [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Marco
> > Mangelsdorf
> > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:12 PM
> > To: chris at solarandwindfx.com; 'RE-wrenches'
> > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] low cost DAS systems
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> >
> >
> > I've had one of my guys research this same question a while ago and
> the
> > conclusion was the as far as low-cost DAS systems, Fat Spaniel was the
> > big winner, as in under $1,000 which includes a year's worth of
> > monitoring.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > marco
> >
> >
> >
> > Good Day Wrenches,
> >
> >             I'm looking for suggestions for a low cost DAS system for
> > home/small commercial use. It just seems to be such a useful basic
> tool
> > to verify performance other than just the Kwh meter. I'd like to add
> > this to all of our clients quotes and projects. Looking for the basics
> > like module temperature and irradiance and it would be nice if it
> would
> > tie into the existing inverters DAS like an Enphase, Fronius or SMA to
> > name a few since they already have inverter and PV in/output
> > information. Or is Fat Spaniel and Helitronics my only options
> > otherwise? Thanks for the help ahead of time.
> >
> >
> >
> > Christopher
> >
> >
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