[RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool

Doug Pratt dmpratt at sbcglobal.net
Sat Feb 20 12:15:18 PST 2010


Rennsteig shared many, many MBs of independent 3rd party test results using
various brands of crimpers with various brands of connectors, on various
types of wire that were then subjected to incredibly precise resistance and
pull tests.  I came away thoroughly convinced that the Rennsteig is more
than equal to (actually a bit better) than the Multi-Contact tool.  

 

And, if you recall, there were a few months toward the end of '09 when it
seemed everyone was tooling up for MC4 connectors. Multi-Contact couldn't
come close to keeping up with demand.  During the worst of it they couldn't
even predict when we'd get our next shipment, or how many crimpers would be
in that shipment.  Pretty lame for a company that's making $200 profit per
crimper. We had desperate dealers with contracts that HAD to finish
installation by year end even offering bribes.  (My favorite was the
home-smoked wild pig ham, which I will admit did have some effect on my
actions. He's also one of my best dealers.) 

 

Coming down the pike very soon we'll be seeing other brands of connectors
that are fully-compatible with the Multi-Contact MC4 connector. Apparently
MC doesn't have a patent lock on this connector. There's at least a couple
European brands and probably some Asian ones too, currently beating their
way thru UL listing. I know at least one of them specifies the Rennsteig as
the preferred crimping tool. 

 

So, is it cheaper hardware that could potentially bring on performance and
liability problems? Ha! Not at all. It's just better hardware at a
non-gouging price. 

The MC branded tool is, of course, still available also.

 

Cheers,

Doug Pratt

DC Power Systems

 

From: re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Warren
Lauzon
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:24 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool

 

Uhm. not quite.

 

The insistence of MC to use their tool has nothing to do with code, NEC, UL,
or anything else.

 

It has to do with (1) sales, (2) liability, and (3) quality control.

 

For (2) it means that if a connector fails, burns down the house, and kills
93 chickens that they are not liable because you did not use their tool.
For (3) There are or at least have been in the past attempts to use crimping
tools that were totally not meant for MC connectors, and there was also at
least one junky Chinese(?) knockoff that was way out of spec.

 

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----- Original Message ----- 

From: Mark Frye <mailto:markf at berkeleysolar.com>  

To: 'RE-wrenches' <mailto:re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>  

Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 9:41 AM

Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool

 

Humm,

 

I know I am only supposted to use Listed parts in my electrical assemblies,
but hey, I know galvanized water pipe is the same as electrical conduit....

 

....I find this thread somewhat disturbing in that it supports the idea of
undermining manufactures requirements at the whim of the installer [just as
long as you don't get caught by the inspector ;-)].

 

Scroll up a few post and find folks singing the praise of inverter
manufacturers, confirming the need to strictly abide by their requirements
as documented....

 

...this willingness to subvert clearly stated manufacturer requirements for
the sack of a few hundred bucks peals off the vanier of emerging maturity
and reveals the underlying backwards-ness inherent in the PV industry...


Mark Frye 
Berkeley Solar Electric Systems 
303 Redbud Way 
Nevada City,  CA 95959 
(530) 401-8024 
 <http://www.berkeleysolar.com/> www.berkeleysolar.com  

 

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