[RE-wrenches] SWR2500U Inverter

Dave Click daveclick at fsec.ucf.edu
Wed Nov 18 08:14:41 PST 2009


Good catch Bob, there seems to be a page missing from that table... this 
report from Bill's site has the complete table (at the end of the file, 
again).

http://www.brooksolar.com/files/Expedited_Explanation-5-6-09.pdf

DKC

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] SWR2500U Inverter
From: robert ellison <reellison at gmail.com>
To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
Date: 2009/11/18 11:01

> My eyes must be bad, i just looked at the entire list 3 times and New 
> York state is not on it anywhere.
>  
> I have see 48 below and just wanted to see what the averages ctually were.
>  
> Bob
> 
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Dave Click <daveclick at fsec.ucf.edu 
> <mailto:daveclick at fsec.ucf.edu>> wrote:
> 
>     Just a note here- rather than using the record lows, you can go back
>     to the future and use the ASHRAE minimum expected temperatures as
>     the 2011 NEC will allow explicitly. In the '08, it says to use the
>     "lowest expected ambient temperature," for which the ASHRAE
>     temperatures are more appropriate than record lows. These ASHRAE
>     temps will be higher than the record lows and will add a little more
>     cushion there at 600 VDC.
> 
>     So where to get these temperatures? Starting on page 47:
>     http://www.solarabcs.org/permitting/Expermitprocess.pdf
> 
>     Also, in case you didn't know, www.pvselect.com
>     <http://www.pvselect.com/> is another option for string sizing that
>     features multiple inverters and a 1 degree temperature step rather
>     than the 9 degree (F) temperature step on the SMA sizer. They have
>     the Kyocera KD130 in their database, but not the KC130.
> 
>     DKC
> 
> 
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] SWR2500U Inverter
>     From: Brian Teitelbaum <bteitelbaum at aeesolar.com
>     <mailto:bteitelbaum at aeesolar.com>>
>     To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org
>     <mailto:re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>>
>     Date: 2009/11/18 01:34
> 
>         Joel,
>          The SMA SWR2500U inverter has been a long discontinued model.
>         If you want to use an SMA inverter, go to the SMA website to use
>         their excellent sizing program. Plug in the module, and your
>         record minimum and average maximum temps for the site, and look
>         for a current model inverter that will work. All of the "U"
>         series inverters (except for the 700U) are discontinued models,
>         and the "US" series are the current models.
>          If your min temp is not below 14⁰F, it looks like you can use
>         all 24 in one series string with the 4000US inverter, but that
>         gets you awfully close to 600VDC (595VDC) at 14⁰F. You might
>         want to play it safe and drop one of the modules. Unfortunately,
>         none of the SMA inverters will operate with only 12 modules in a
>         string (with two strings). However, a Fronius IG-3000 will, so
>         you might want to go with that, although it has a lower efficiency.
>          Brian Teitelbaum
>         AEE Solar
>            -----Original Message-----
>         From: re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
>         <mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org>
>         [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
>         <mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org>] On Behalf Of
>         Joel Davidson
>         Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:56 PM
>         To: RE-wrenches
>         Subject: [RE-wrenches] SWR2500U Inverter
>          Wrenches,
>          Our customer has 24 each Kyocera KC130 modules and wants to go
>         grid-tied.
>         Can he use an SMA SWR2500U inverter with the fan kit? Is there a
>         better
>         inverter that will use all of his modules? If you have an
>         SWR2500U or a
>         better inverter option for sale, please contact me off-list.
>         Thank you very
>         much.
>          Joel Davidson
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