[RE-wrenches] Surge protector update?

jay peltz jay at asis.com
Sat Aug 1 08:35:46 PDT 2009


Sure, if you install something electrical that is not UL, they can  
fail it.
Even though that same part installed in a "factory" is OK.

jay

On Aug 1, 2009, at 8:22 AM, <holtek at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Then if I install LA's to a system in the field, an inspector could  
> fail a system? Picky, yes. But you never know
>
> Holt E. Kelly
> Holtek Fireplace & Solar Products
> 500 Jewell Dr.
> Waco TX. 76712
> 254-751-9111
> www.holteksolar.com
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jay peltz" <jay at asis.com>
> To: "RE-wrenches" <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 10:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Surge protector update?
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>
>> Depends on who built the system.
>>
>> If a UL integrator builds it, the  UR works.
>>
>> If I build it as joe electrician, then no the UR does not work and   
>> could compromise the code compliance because of it.
>>
>> At least this is what I was told by a "UL" shop.
>>
>> jay
>>
>> peltz power
>> On Aug 1, 2009, at 8:06 AM, <holtek at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Dumb question:
>>> Since the LA is not UL listed, does that void the UL listing on  
>>> the entire system? It's my undrstanding that *all* components are   
>>> required to be UL listed to make the system such.
>>> Holt E. Kelly
>>> Holtek Fireplace & Solar Products
>>> 500 Jewell Dr.
>>> Waco TX. 76712
>>> 254-751-9111
>>> www.holteksolar.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard L Ratico" <Richard.L.Ratico at VALLEY.NET
>>> >
>>> To: <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 5:49 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Surge protector update?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Weighing in ...
>>>>
>>>> 1)At a recent SMA Inverter Training, we were cautioned that the   
>>>> Deltas were not
>>>> UL listed. Like many of us, I was already well aware of that.  
>>>> What  was
>>>> interesting, was the trainer specifically recommending we NOT  
>>>> use  them, for
>>>> reasons related to liability.
>>>>
>>>> 2)At a different training, by a well respected professional   
>>>> engineer who
>>>> frequently posts here, they were judged to likely be as  
>>>> effective  in preventing
>>>> damage as a voodoo doll.
>>>>
>>>> 3) If one "ruptured" while someone happened to be standing in  
>>>> front  of
>>>> it........
>>>>
>>>> 4) Why aren't they UL listed?
>>>>
>>>> Dick
>>>> Solarwind Electric
>>>>
>>>> You wrote:
>>>>> North Texas Renewable Energy Inc wrote:
>>>>>> August
>>>>>> I made a service call to a residential PVinstallation several   
>>>>>> years ago
>>>>>> that I did not install. The vintage Trace, size I don't  
>>>>>> recall,  had quit
>>>>>> working. The Delta surge suppressor had actually ruptured  
>>>>>> along  it's
>>>>>> radial seam, a result I had always heard indicates a surge being
>>>>>> absorbed.
>>>>>
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