[RE-wrenches] more housekeeping

[Allan Sindelar]

Even I am guilty as charged, Michael.


-----Original Message-----
From: re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Michael
Welch
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 5:42 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] more housekeeping


A little more housekeeping. Please contact me off-list if you have questions
or comments. 

I should have had a #5 in my housekeeping list I sent awhile back. For those
that did not notice the previous message, it is quoted below.

I've had several contacts by wrenches about this one. All non-wrenching
posts and idle chit-chat are strongly discouraged. Thank-yous, jokes, and
basically anything that has no useful Wrenching content should not be sent
to the list.

Yes, this means you.

I understand that it may seem fairly innocuous to have these pop up on the
list every now and then, but just imagine if everyone did them -- it could
quickly become overwhelming.

Just as importantly, off-topic posting affects the usefulness of the
archives. One member complained to me that they recently searched the
archives for certain key words they recalled from past posts they were
looking for, and there was a bunch of what he too-politely called "jocular
asides." Of course, it is impossible to sort the junk out without viewing
each message during your research, an added hassle. My own goal is to keep
the list at maximum usefulness, so "jocular asides" just get in the way of
that goal.

Here is a recent good example of that potential problem: Now every time
someone tries to find the thread about the best shoes to use on a roof, they
are also going to have to wade through several messages about not being able
to access a web site.

So please keep the "jocular asides" and other posts devoid of useful
Wrenching content off the list. If you want to thank someone for their
incredibly wonderful post, please do it to them directly.

If someone posts a non-wrenching topic, and you wish to respond, please do
it off list. If you are not sure if your post is appropriate, please contact
me off list.

Marketing stuff goes to the RE-markets list, and anything (and I mean
ANYTHING) goes on the RE-Bitching list.

Considering the number of wrenches on the list, you all have been great
about staying on-topic. Thanks, gang.

Michael Welch wrote at 11:26 AM 11/13/2008:
 
>Good morning gang. I sure do feel privileged to be in on these excellent
discussions you all have.
>
>Anyway, a few things to pay attention to. If you have any questions, please
contact me off list.
>
>1. You must use the address that you find in the From: or Reply-To: headers
for your message to be accepted by the list. 
>
>In each incoming message there are three headers that have an address that
is similar to the list address. They are Return-Path:, Sender:, and
Errors-To: and they all append "-bounces" to the address. It is for internal
use only, and if you send a message to that address, it will not make it to
the list.
>
>2. You must send mail FROM the address that is subscribed to the list. So,
if you have more than one address, be sure to use the one that is subscribed
as your From address.
>
>3. Try to trim back the quoting on your messages to decrease message size
and increase convenience. Just try to quote the most recent parts and/or the
parts that you are responding to.
>
>4. When we moved the list from Topica last summer, I enabled the ability to
have html and file attachments as an experiment. It seems to be OK, and some
of you like it so I probably will not change back. But please only include
file attachments if you think a lot of Wrenches will appreciate the file
being handed to them. If you think only a few might like the file, it is
better to give list members a choice by putting the file somewhere on the
internet and merely sending the URL and description to the list. Yes, even
in this day and age of high bandwidth, we actually have some members that
are still on painfully slow dialup and semi-slow satellite.
>
>Some of the messages with layers of quoting can be come quite colorful,
can't they?  I hope this drab B&W message has not been too boring.
>
>Peace.

_______________________________________________
List sponsored by Home Power magazine

List Address: RE-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org

Options & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org