[RE-wrenches] Magnum AGS with Kohler RES 8.5

boB Gudgel bob at midnitesolar.com
Fri Oct 31 15:11:52 PDT 2008



AHHA, OK, Now I see...  

Sorry.  Nevermind.

Say no more !!  Wink Wink...  Nudge Nudge...

Thanks,
boB


>
> David said:
>
> Hi boB,
>
> The Kohler RES is is a very simple 2 wire start as are all of the Kohler's
> that I know of. These Kohler's have worked very easily with OutBack and
> Trace inverters over the years fro remote automatic start/stop control.
>
> The problem is in getting the Magnum AGS module 12v power when the 
> generator
> is running so that the AGS knows when the gen is operating. This 
> particular
> model (RES) Kohler does not have a place that we can find this 12v 
> power. It
> would be easier for us to use generator 120VAC output power for the AGS's
> run signal.
>
> I have hooked up a number of OutBack, and also old Trace SW systems, 
> and we
> never had this problem of having to bring 12volt power from a remote
> generator back to the inverter for generator control purposes.
>
> Best,
>
> Dave
>
>
> boB Gudgel wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi David.
>>
>> Gary Baxter says he apologizes for not having that exact wiring 
>> diagram for the Kohler RES generator
>> and the answer you got over the phone.   (we gotta get him on this 
>> list too soon)
>>
>> Magnum Energy does rely somewhat on customers to help with different 
>> generator wiring if they have
>> information that we don't have.
>>
>>      If you or anyone else has wiring diagrams for generators that we 
>> do not have on our site,
>> please email or let us know about it and we will try to get added to 
>> that list also which will help everybody.
>>
>> We do have quite a few on there now though at   
>> http://www.magnumenergy.com/GenWiringDiagrams.htm
>>
>> Also, if you find a wiring diagram on OutBack's web site for this 
>> particular generator, maybe you
>> could post a link ??
>>
>> If this is a 3 wire hookup, you may have to check with one of the 
>> other 3 wire gen start manufacturers like Atkinson.
>>
>> There certainly are a LOT of generators out there with their 
>> particular wiring needs.  It would be difficult (tree wise) to
>> print every generator wiring  that we even DO have and include it 
>> with the manual.
>>
>> Maybe  a CD ??  That'd work.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> boB
>>
>>
>>> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:03:08 -0400
>>> From: David Palumbo <dave at independentpowerllc.com>
>>>
>>> Wrenchsters,
>>>
>>> We have a new 3.4kW PV off grid installation that includes a Magnum ME-AGS
>>> Auto Gen Start module, Magnum ME-RC50 Remote Control, MS4448AE inverter and
>>> a Kohler 8.5 RES lp gas generator for automatic backup battery charging (16
>>> L-16G's).
>>>
>>> We have successfully used a Magnum AGS control Magnum with an older 3 wire
>>> start Onan although it took some time in finding 12 volts that is only on
>>> when the gen is running (typically the hour meter power).
>>>
>>> With the Kohler 8.5 RES there is no hour meter or other obvious location in
>>> the generator for 12v power that is only on when the gen is running. We
>>> called Magnum from the site only to be told that all of the information we
>>> needed was on line. The man was still un-helpful when we told him that we
>>> were on a remote installation with no internet access. Now I'm back at the
>>> shop and on the web. On the Magnum web site I see a hook-up diagram for
>>> their AGS with a Kohler RMY series generator. Nothing for a RES series.
>>>
>>> Next time we'll go back to OutBack.
>>>
>>> Any help that the wrench community can lend on working this situation out
>>> would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Dave Palumbo
>>> Independent Power LLC
>>>   
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