[RE-wrenches] Fake Email solar orders

Matt Tritt solarone at charter.net
Wed Sep 10 15:22:18 PDT 2008


Yes, we get these every day as well. If therre is anything in the 
message body about "credit", I file it in my Nigerian Opportunities 
folder. :-)

Matt T

Chris @ the Oasis wrote:

> Hi Folks:
>
>Because of our (cursedly) good web presence, we get perhaps 4 to 6 of these
>a day.  When I got fewer of them (thinking perhaps they were not bogus), I
>would call the credit card(s) issuing bank -- you can get that information
>through your credit card processor, by giving them the first six digits of
>the card number.  Then the issuing bank can contact the REAL card holder and
>verify if the transaction is on the up-and-up.  But it's very time
>consuming, so now I just delete them.  Vague orders are just scammers; we
>also have a nice collection of forged, stolen or voided bank checks and
>money orders.  We do a fair amount of international business, but with those
>out-of-country customers, it's bank transfer only.
>
>Let the seller beware!  We haven't been hurt by such scammers, but I know of
>other businesses who have not been so fortunate.
>
>Chris Daum
>Oasis Montana Inc.
>406-777-4309 
>406-777-0830 fax
>www.oasismontana.com
> 
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
>[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Yago
>Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:01 PM
>To: RE-wrenches
>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Fake Email solar orders
>
>I am wondering if any of you are receiving fake email orders as I think they
>are a scam by hackers in China or other countries.
> 
>They always start out asking for a very "odd" list of items they are looking
>for.  For example, they will say they will take almost any brand of solar
>module and any size.  They  also ask for solar pumps or inverters, but do
>not care what size.  If I am trying to order a pump, inverter, or solar
>module for a specific job, I would expect to know the size I need and not
>take whatever the supplier is willing to sell.
> 
>Also, all of these email's have a non-business email address using one of
>those free email services, and always indicate they have also sent the same
>email to others as"un-disclosed."   When we check the street address they
>give us, it is usually an apartment complex or residential area of a large
>city.   They always say right up-front that they will be paying by credit
>card
> 
>Finally, the real give-away is their grammar is never correct and they
>always mis-match the verb tense or there is a mis-match in subject-verb.
>Here is a recent one we received  - 
> 
>Hello, Kindly get quoted pricing for these Grundfos well pump for us ,we
>would be glad for offer your discounted prices. 
>LET ME KNOW THE POSSIBILITY OF THE SUPPLY AND KIND OF CREDIT CARDS YOU HOST
>FOR PAYMENT. MUCH REGARDS
>
> 
>I have heard these scammers are using stolen or bogus credit card numbers
>which are good when you check, but a few days after you ship out the solar
>hardware the credit card is declined.  I have also heard they ship to some
>apartment that is rented for a few months where the turn the orders around
>and ship overseas to 3rd world countries where they can get rid of almost
>anything that is solar with no questions asked.
> 
>Has anybody been stung by these fake orders, and please do not check my
>email grammar!!
>Jeff Yago
>
> 
>
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