Why I abuse batteries was: trojan battery cycle [RE-wrenches]

Drake Chamberlin Drake.Chamberlin at redwoodalliance.org
Fri Feb 15 10:10:15 PST 2008


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Hi Travis,

It seems that the specific gravity is affected by bubbles in the 
electrolyte during charge.  I've heard this from others, and it 
appears to be true from my observation.   Does anyone have any data 
on this effect?

Drake


At 01:45 PM 2/14/2008, you wrote:

>I assume we would all agree what Specific gravity is about the most accurate
>to way to determine state of charge.
>
>So here is possibly dumb question that I've wondered about for years.
>
>Is there such a thing as digital specific gravity meter?  IE; a probe
>immersed in the electrolyte wired to a display.  There must not be else our
>lives would be so much easier.  Right?  Because the next logical step is
>that it would talk the the charge controller and in theory we wouldn't have
>to bother with setting voltages and bulk charge times and so on.
>
>I can see a lot of technical reasons why such a devise doesn't exist but if
>we send a man to moon surely we could build such a thing....  Couldn't it be
>as easy as installing the float "thingy" that is in a standard hydrometer
>with a sending unit?
>
>Travis Creswell
>Ozark Energy Services
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Darryl Thayer [mailto:daryl_solar at yahoo.com]
>Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:16 PM
>To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
>Subject: Re: Why I abuse batteries was: trojan battery cycle [RE-wrenches]
>
>
>Right on Jay
>But I think that the problems of "what to do"
>componded with "how to do it", make solutions
>difficult.  AS I see it, the only people capable of
>SOC control (State of Charge control)are Outback and
>Apollo.  Now how do they use this capability to bring
>betteer the balance to battery care?   Has anyone
>started using these features in battery care?
>
>Darryl
>
>--- "Jay Peltz, Peltz Power" <jay at asis.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Hi All,
> > I think this shows the need for what I have wanted
> > for a long time,
> >
> > A smart charger/inverter generator interface.
> > What I mean is one that you can program to battery
> > charge to
> > different "levels"  with adjustable intervals.
> >
> > So you could do 10 cycles( adjustable) charging up
> > to  80%, then
> > every 11th, it will EQ the batteries.
> > ( or some variation of this)
> >
> > Also a adjustable timer so that instead of turning
> > on at 2pm, it will
> > wait until 6pm when the loads are really on. (fuzzy
> > logic)
> >
> > This  is the next big advancement for those folks
> > building inverter/
> > chargers to really improve the efficiency of the
> > generator/charger.
> >
> > Sure all this can be done with a smart owner
> > operating the system,
> > but more and more of these systems are being run on
> > auto we need
> > smarter charger programs.
> >
> > thanks for listening,
> >
> > jay
> >
> > peltz power
> >
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