CFL follow-up [RE-wrenches]

Dan Rice danrice at scinternet.net
Wed Aug 29 20:39:16 PDT 2007


I have to weigh in to the contrary on the Home Cheapo CF's. I've been using
them for some time now with overall good success. Quality seems to vary from
one batch to another. When the things buzz or die, I take 'em back and get
something else at no charge. Many of the ones I have are 4+ years old. I'm
not a huge fan of H.D. but I sure have grown to like CFs, and theirs are as
good as any, IMO. But I still drive an '83 Subaru...

Dan Rice
Abundant Sun, LLC.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Peltz, Peltz Power" <jay at asis.com>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: CFL follow-up [RE-wrenches]


|
| Hi David,
|
| Although I do use and recommend CFL's,
| most of them are sure junk,, poor light quality, slow to full bright
| and short lifespan.
|
| If we expect CFL's to become "normal"
| then they have to get better.
| jay
|
|
| On Aug 28, 2007, at 1:26 PM, David Brearley wrote:
|
| >
| > For some reason I decided that since the Home Depot CFLs are Energy
| > Star
| > rated, they can't be all that bad of a product.  Boy was I wrong.
| > One out
| > of 10 bulbs failed right out of the box.  All of the bulbs flicker
| > at start
| > up.  Even worse, all of the bulbs take about 3 minutes to ramp up
| > to full
| > output.  Once they are warmed up, the quality of the light is
| > better than it
| > was a couple years ago, but I wanted to take all the bulbs out 5
| > minutes
| > after they were installed.  Maybe if I just turn them on and off a
| > bunch
| > they will fail early?
| >
| > David
| >
| >
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: Jeff Oldham [mailto:starpower4u at juno.com]
| > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:03 AM
| > To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
| > Subject: CFL follow-up [RE-wrenches]
| >
| >
| >
| > I've just learned some interesting CFL facts from LBNL via EBN:
| > 20% reduction in lamp life if on cycle is under 1 hr.
| > 70% reduction in lamp life if on cycle is 15 mins.
| > 85% reduction in lamp life if on cycle is 5 mins. (This brings it
| > close to
| > incandescent life)
| > Each switch cycle costs about 6 mins in lamp life.
| > LBNL suggests that you use CFL's where they will have on cycles of
| > 10 mins
| > or more.
| >
| > -jeff o.
| >
| >
| >> From the Solar, Wind and Hydro powered office of Jeff Oldham/
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