WEEB report [RE-wrenches]

[Jeff Clearwater]

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HI Bill and all,

I agree.  We set the standard- and rightfully so as we've moved the 
industry forward with new innovations and sincere intent to meet the 
spirit of the code.    This is as it should be - the inspectors 
appreciate it.

Mostly we are educating the inspectors on every job.  The only issues 
they usually raise are at the power board or with grounding or 
interconnection issues - I've never had one actually go up on a roof 
unless it was a flat commercial job.  Even then they ask - not tell - 
in most instances.

With WEEBs we should spread the word as a done deal - not a potential 
point of conflict.

And surely not consult the module manufacturer's guidelines.  It is 
because of their lack of attention to grounding that the WEEB needing 
inventing in the first place.

Best,

Jeff C.






>Don,
>
>I would argue that the module manufacturer's literature is generally so
>hopelessly poor on this issue that expecting them to have anything to say
>about products like the WEEB is ridiculous and irrelevant. It is a bonding
>system designed to work with any standard anodized aluminum framed module.
>There is no restriction on the listing other than it has to be used with
>modules that the rail manufacturer has specified. This is a big step in the
>right direction, and I don't think Wiley's patent is specific enough to
>cause problems with other similar products. The concept is actually a very
>standard idea that has been used for other products for many years. We have
>Wiley Electronics to thank for being the first to bell the cat, and they
>have developed a very good product for this purpose.
>
>Placing doubts in inspector's minds is the wrong approach to take with new
>products like this. There is no requirement that module manufacturers
>provide specific information on how to bond their products. The research I
>have done on this subject shows that bonding products and metallic products
>often have very sketchy, if any direction on proper methods. Just look at
>Sharp's old bonding hardware if you doubt me. A specific product like the
>WEEB that is designed for a specific purpose, installed as directed, is as
>crystal clear as is possible in this world. No inspector of merit should
>have reason to question this.
>
>Bill Brooks, PE
>Brooks Engineering
>873 Kells Circle
>Vacaville, CA 95688
>office and mobile phone: 707-332-0761
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>
>Ecclesiastes 11:7 Light is sweet, and it pleases the eyes to see the sun.
>
>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Don Loweberg [mailto:I2P at aol.com]
>>  Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 1:53 PM
>>  To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
>>  Subject: Re: WEEB report [RE-wrenches]
>>
>>
>>
>>  In a message dated 11/4/2006 1:07:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>>  max at seesolar.com writes:
>>
>>  We've been using weeb clips for a whike now - 20 - 34.2 systems, Labor
>>  savings is worthwhile...
>>
>>
>>  I too like the WEEBs. Has anyone used the UniRac product for this
>>  purpose.?
>>  WEEB has a patent pending and is already Listed. UniRac is soon to be
>>  listed
>>  and their product appears to be identical. Are they on a colision course?
>>
>>  A second point. I mentioned the WEEB product to John Wiles who was
>>  favorable
>>  about the product but pointed out that until module manufacturers
>>  specifically
>>  approve this method and state it in their literature, the approach may not
>>  be
>>  approved by all local jurisdictions. Any additional info on this?  Another
>>  concern is that having trained inspectors to look for wire grounds , they
>>  now
>>  will give grief when they don't see ground wires on every module.
>>
>>  Max, Jeff- have you gotten any hasle? How do you deal with inspectors?
>>  Thanks
>>  for your feedback.
>>
>>  Don Loweburg
>>  Offline Independent Energy Systems
>>
>>  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>
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