Disconnect Question [RE-wrenches]

[Michael Gullo]

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Allan,

Iota makes a 50A 2P transfer switch for about $200. It's probably NEMA 1,
but the price is right if it fits your application.

http://www.iotaengineering.com/its50r.htm

Mike
Michael Gullo
Solar Solutions
Marlton, NJ
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To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: Disconnect Question [RE-wrenches]


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Bill,
Thanks for the response. You are certainly correct in your correction of my
terminology. It's an "optional standby" panel. And yes, I agree it's
unnecessary, several times over. However, it's still a legal requirement for
interconnection, and not to meet the NEC, and I still need recommendations
of the lowest-cost product that meets the stated requirements.
Allan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Brooks" <billb at endecon.com>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: Disconnect Question [RE-wrenches]


Allan,

Are you talking about service to a well pump that local jurisdiction require
direct power for the fire department? Otherwise, the word "critical" loads
is a misnomer. We often refer to our backup subpanels as "critical load
subpanel" but the code refers to them as "optional standby" subpanels
(article 702). You want to stay away from any mention of article 700
(Emergency) or 701 (legally required) systems. I think this is the source of
your problem.

There is nothing critical about most customer's loads from a code point of
view. Requiring an additional switch beyond the standard by-pass you always
install on a backup system is definitely redundant. Visible break is almost
silly at this point--they are not worried about separation, they are worried
abount connection, so no need to see it.

Bill.


-----Original Message-----
From: Allan Sindelar [mailto:allan at positiveenergysolar.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 2:37 PM
To: New wrenches posting
Subject: Disconnect Question [RE-wrenches]

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Wrenches,
New Mexico has a requirement that if the utility locks out a grid-tied
system, the utility power must still be able to power the critical loads.
It's a weird and unique complication. With batteryless systems, this has
been of no consequence, as the also-required lockable visible-break
disconnect is OK as is. But with a critical loads served by a backup system,
a double-throw, lockable manual transfer switch is required.

Who makes the lowest cost product that meets these requirements? 1. 3R
enclosure 2. Fusibility, neutral buss, and center-off position are not
necessary 3. Double-pole OK, but 3-pole may be used if cheaper 4. 60A AC
capacity (50A would work, as it's Outback PS-1 equipment, but I think 60A is
standard for most manufacturers); no DC rating required 5. It must be
"visible-break", so breakers can't be used, even though they'd be simpler
and cheaper

Thanks for the benefit of our collective experience, as usual.

Allan at +E




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