Generator stuff [RE-wrenches]

Matt Tritt solarone at charter.net
Mon Oct 18 13:22:10 PDT 2004 

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  Travis,

  The Generac I'm talking about is an 1800 RPM unit with the same engine, a 
4 cylinder Ford industrial, the 12 RY used to have before they went 
air-cooled on us. It comes without a built-in X-fer switch so there's no 
prob. there. It's still a Generac however.

  Matt T
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Travis Creswell, Ozark Solar" <ozsolar at ipa.net>
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  Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 9:33 AM
  Subject: RE: Generator stuff [RE-wrenches]




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  We just installed a 12RES Kohler.  It is a 3600 RPM unit and has a Kohler
  engine.  $3275 includes the Kohler technician startup which is required 
for
  the 2000 hr/ 2 year warranty.

  My application is a part time off grid residence which I expect to be
  several 100 hrs or less per year run time.  It comes with a battery, 2 
wire
  start and a very nice enclosure (super quiet).  I maxed out the SW4024 
Dual
  inverter charge rate and turned on another 3000-5000 watts of loads. With
  all that on it didn't even grunt when the 3/4 hp well pump started.

  I believe the Generacs require their transfer switch to run as all of the
  electronics for the generator are built into it.  That might present a
  serious problem if you are using it for an off grid application.

  Travis Creswell
  Ozark Energy Services, Inc.


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  Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 10:29 AM
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    Thanks to you too Frank,

    I appreciate the info on Coleman, however I need to stay with an 1800 
RPM
  unit for a number of reasons. I also like to stay with liquid cooled sets
  now that Deutz can't sell their air cooled Diesel engines in California.

    Too bad that Generac is still to be avoided.

    Matt T


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    From: "Frank Fowler" <cpae1 at direcway.com>
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    Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 7:14 AM
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    Matt,
    No experience with that peticular Generac model, but from my dealings 
with
    my son who owns a small engine repair shop, any Generac genset is 
suspect.

  I
    have lots of experience with the Coleman line, model (PM400911). My son
  has
    sold many of these to my customers with very litlle problems. They are
  Honda
    powered, and connect to inverters very well. The PM400911 is only 9.5 
kw,
    and is propane/Nat. gas. If you are interested, go to;
    www.colemanpowermate.com.
    SUNcerely,
    Frank Fowler
    Crystal Pines Alternative Energy
    530-532-1972
    cpae1 at direcway.com
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    From: "Matt Tritt" <solarone at charter.net>
    To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
    Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 8:05 PM
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    Off-grid cohorts,

    Has anybody had experience with the (gulp) Generac Elite Home Standby 15
  kW
    vapor fuel 1800 RPM units? From the technical info they would seem to be 
a
    pretty good candidate to replace the sorely missed Kohler 12 RY liquid
    cooled unit.

    They even appear to use the same little Ford industrial 4 cylinder 
engine
  as
    the Kohler. The Elite model comes without the un-needed grid-sensing
    transfer switch.

    Very interesting but I really need some actual info on these things.

    Thanks in advance,

    Matt T

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