KWh subsidies (was PVUSA rating vs. CEC rating) [RE-wrenches]

[Matt Tritt]

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  Much of the impetus for the second world war was energy, or rather a
shortage of it in the form of raw materials in Germany, Japan and Italy, and
a surplus of it in the Soviet Union, British possesions and the U.S.

  I hear from someone who might actually know about such things that the
"real" reason for this mess in Iraq has more to do with stopping China from
gaining access to oil there (they were working on a deal with Hussein before
the war) and using this as leverage in the ongoing struggle for Chinese
dominance. Sound crazy?

  The Germans and the Japanese learned from the horrible lessons of the 20th
century. Do you think we will?

  Matt T


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  From: "Joel Davidson" <joeldavidson at earthlink.net>
  To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
  Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 9:40 PM
  Subject: Re: KWh subsidies (was PVUSA rating vs. CEC rating) [RE-wrenches]




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  Hello Graham,

  I, too, thought that coal in Germany was in short supply, but look at
  http://www.cslforum.org/press_germany.htm

  July 2004, the editor of Consulting-Specifying Engineer wrote "...the U.S.
  would never agree to the (Kyoto) protocol's requirements" "...as long as
the
  current administration remains in power." He goes on to say "...if we even
  nominally curb our greed, maybe the rest of the world won't find us so
  contemptible."

  Less than 65 years ago, Japan, Germany and the U.S. fought for world
  domination. The U.S. won and today has the most wealth and the most
weapons
  of mass destruction while Japan and Germany have the most PV.

  It's all a matter of priorities.

  Joel Davidson

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Graham Owen" <graham at solarexpert.com>
  To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
  Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 10:26 AM
  Subject: RE: KWh subsidies (was PVUSA rating vs. CEC rating) [RE-wrenches]


  Hi Joel,

  Well said, I agree completely.  Seems to me there is more political
  support in Germany because they, unlike the U.S., do not have a 250-year
  supply of coal.  The coal industry is a powerful, well-entrenched force
  with deep pockets, especially when it comes to political contributions.
  I think it would be best to increase usage of clean renewable power NOW
  in an effort to make this stockpile of coal last 500 years, while at the
  same time cutting associated airborne pollutants in half.  Only greedy
  self-serving interests can argue that we should wait until this
  stockpile is burnt and inhaled before transitioning to renewables.  Feed
  in tariffs, that ad an increased value for non-polluting,
  self-sustaining power, makes sense for those who care more about the
  future health and well-being of our country and it's inhabitants, than
  just focusing on short term profits.

  Graham

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