SW4024 and Pizzo Ignitors [RE-wrenches]

Jay Peltz, Peltz Power jay at asis.com
Sun Jan 5 14:56:36 PST 2003


Hi Matt,

Yes I agree, that with just the one load on, sometimes it can "fool" the
regulator on the genny, but I doubt that this is the case.  Usually if you
are using the stove, you've at least got a light on.  And in my experience,
if at least one light is one ( best if its an incandescent) then there is no
problems with a sensitive load.

Jay

peltz power


----- Original Message -----
From: "matthew tritt" <solarone at charter.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: SW4024 and Pizzo Ignitors [RE-wrenches]


> Hay Jay,
>
> .  I suspect that the real reason that certain  loads, like microwaves,
oven
> bars and submersible pumps don't work properly with the small, low
> torque-high RPM gensets has to do with their controls, and not the actual
> load. Perhaps, that since these small generators will easily bog down and
> develop a less than perfect wave form when attempting to start some loads,
> the controls reject the power (or, in the case of some pumps, the engine
> stalls out) Does anyone have experience with a small (under 6 kW) high
speed
> genset that will actually start and run sensitive loads? I've never seen
> this type of problem with the Listers or other industrial grade sets that
I
> use.
>
> Matt
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
>
> From: "Jay Peltz, Peltz Power" <jay at asis.com>
> To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 9:11 AM
> Subject: Re: SW4024 and Pizzo Ignitors [RE-wrenches]
>
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > What I'm curious about is that "glow bars" only use a few hundred watts
> max.
> > I don't understand all this talk of overloading a 3500 watt genny?
> >
> > I think the problem is not in acutal power useage but in some other
> problem
> > such as wave form.  I've got a customer ( haven't been back out to the
> site
> > yet) who says their microwaves work fine on the inverter, but don't work
> > with the genny ( SW4024) which is a 4.5kw onan in good shape.
> >
> > Remember its not the size, its how it works!!
> >
> > jay
> > Peltz Power
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jack West, Talkeetna AE" <jackwest at alaska.net>
> > To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 12:38 AM
> > Subject: Re: SW4024 and Pizzo Ignitors [RE-wrenches]
> >
> >
> > > William et al,
> > >
> > > The ability of the 4024 to shed the charger load is approximately 1
amp
> > > per cycle (16ms).  IE, at 30 amps charging it takes 1/2 second to
> > > completely shed the charger.  Pretty slow.  I have seen this cause
> > > problems several times with pumps coming on.  Generally setting the
max
> > > charge amps to a lower value will fix the nuisance problems.  I did
not
> > > personnally measure this value but rather got the number from tech
> > > support at trace when I was having similar trouble with a customer's
> > > system.
> > >
> > > Jack West
> > >
> > > William wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've never tested either feature.  Has anyone out there tested
either
> or
> > > > both of these features?
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