Joel sees the "gas" light!! [RE-wrenches]

[Lawrence Elliott]

Todd. Your right only if you continue to use fossil fuels.
Even then the ratio is not 1 to 1.

If we were to grow and harvest 500 acres of rapeseed and extract the oil
and get lets says 200 million btu's of energy ( way low but good example
for now) and we used 10% to plant,harvest and process in the form of bio
diesel then we have a net positive gain of 90%

We are still essentially harvesting sunlight .
Even if we used 50% we are still ahead of the game.

Larry Elliott

Hope you guys don't get bored with all these posts but this is what I do
in front of a classroom on slow days.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Cory, Mt. Shasta Energy Services" <toddcory at jps.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: Joel sees the "gas" light!! [RE-wrenches]


> I thought I read (in hp?) that bio diesel, when you consider all the
fossil fuel energy
> that goes into growing the crops, is a net energy loss.
>
> Todd
>
> "Ken Hulet, Engineering Services Co." wrote:
>
> > Though it's NOT a PV thing we could run ALL of our Diesel engines on
100% renewable
> > bioDiesel right now! No modifications! Our local FS, Farm Service
Cooperative,
> >   is selling it with ALL road taxes paid at around $1.75 - $1.80
gallon.
> >
> > On Tuesday, May 7, 2002, at 06:24  PM, Eric Smiley wrote:
> >
> > > I have been told that mixing hydrogen with natural gas works very
well
> > > for IC engines. Not only does it make for a cleaner burn, but
apparently
> > > at the right ratio it is easier to convert a petrol engine because
the
> > > timing doesn't need to be adjusted as radically.
> >
> > Ken Hulet
> > Engineering Services Co.
> > Blanchardville, WI
> > 608.523.3726
> > http://www.revolutionearth.com
>
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