Trace/Onan starting [RE-wrenches]

Pat Kiernan, Eco Electric, Inc. ecoelec at rof.net
Thu Jul 12 16:38:26 PDT 2001


Dave,

One additional bit of info. The Onan we had also came with a connector that
was inserted into the generator wiring harness. This enabled the remote
start control and bypassed the switch on the generator.

Pat Kiernan

Eco Electric, Inc.
PO Box 550
Carbondale, CO 81623
tel/fax (970) 963-3132
e-mail: ecoelec at rof.net
----- Original Message -----
From: Pat Kiernan, Eco Electric, Inc. <ecoelec at rof.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: Trace/Onan starting [RE-wrenches]


> Dave,
>
> We had a similar problem with a 6.3 Onan. The Trace manual diagram for the
> 4.01 version indicates using the COM and N.O. contacts on RY7 and RY8.
After
> reviewing the generator control sequence in the Trace manual and the
remote
> description in the Onan Manual, I believe we used the COM and N.O. on RY7
> and the COM and N.C. on RY8. (May have been the other way around, I don't
> have an Onan manual handy.) It starts, runs and shuts off just fine. It
was
> a question of making the relay control logic of the Trace compatible with
> the Onan start/run/stop sequence.
>
> Pat Kiernan
>
> Eco Electric, Inc.
> PO Box 550
> Carbondale, CO 81623
> tel/fax (970) 963-3132
> e-mail: ecoelec at rof.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Palumbo, Independent Power & Light <ipl at sover.net>
> To: Wrenches <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:17 PM
> Subject: Trace/Onan starting [RE-wrenches]
>
>
> > Wrenches,
> > This just came in today. I did not do the install, or sell the
equipment.
> > Any body have any experience with Onan's and Trace SW remote starting?
> > "Dave - In my house I have a Trace SW series
> > inverter/charger. I have two Onan generators, the
> > first, 6.3 NHDFB 7512M, propane fueled, the second, a
> > JC Industrial Engine, 12.5 Kwatt, 1964 vintage,
> > propane fueled, can be converted for gas operation.
> > I had the 6.3 NHD hooked up using a 3 wire start
> > setup. All the electrical work was done by a licensed
> > electrician, who had no previous Onan/Trace
> > experience. When I would start the generator via the
> > Trace unit. The generator would start no problem but
> > as soon as it would start, a grinding noise would
> > occur & the generator would shut down. I put 4
> > starters into this unit. I then purchased the second
> > Onan generator, convinced that the first generator was
> > a lemon. I still have the same 3 wire hook up. Now the
> > second generator is doing the same thing. The last two
> > times that grinding noise has come about, I have
> > immediately shut the generator off via the Trace unit,
> > & walked out to the generator & started the generator
> > via the Start/Stop switch located on the generator. It
> > starts fine with no grinding. I would appreciate any
> > assistance that you might have to offer. Thank you. - Jim______"
> >
> > Dave
> >
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