Outboard equipment for PV5 [RE-wrenches]

Bill Brooks billbrooks7 at earthlink.net
Thu Jun 14 08:51:16 PDT 2001


Roger,

The philosophy holds true for lots of equipment. At lower voltages, the
mistakes are more forgiving in general. Lack of training is a problem for
all PV system types, and those engaged in selling high voltage equipment
have an obligation to focus on training. Also PV modules and inverters do
not a system make. I know John Berdner (SMA) and Kent Sheldon (Trace Tech)
are very well aware of this. Since John will be marketing to dealers all
over the place, he has said in previous postings that training will be
available.

It's not that it is rocket science--just that without attention to some very
important details, trouble arrives much more quickly.

Bill.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Solar Technologies [mailto:rdenault at solartechnologies.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 11:45 PM
> To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
> Subject: Re: Outboard equipment for PV5 [RE-wrenches]
>
>
> I wonder if the same philosophy will hold true for the high voltage Sunny
> Boys?
>
> Roger
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Brooks <billbrooks7 at earthlink.net>
> To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 10:01 AM
> Subject: RE: Outboard equipment for PV5 [RE-wrenches]
>
>
> > William,
> >
> > Most of the them are buying dozens or hundreds of units and
> Trace is able
> to
> > justify support to those customers. They (we) figured out a lot of the
> > issues and problems the hard way--trial and error. It is much more
> difficult
> > to support the small 5,10,15kW units to single-sale customers.
> Xantrex is
> > working on how to deal with this issue. One potential way of
> dealing with
> > these units is to sell only through master dealers who provide
> the support
> > to the final installers.
> >
> > As I have said before, without an engineered system and direct
> training on
> > how to put it together and the hazards involved, you are embarking on a
> very
> > risky business. As I have seen in the field, one mis-polarized
> 600V array
> > connection can cause most combiners to catch on fire. There is enough
> > different about high-voltage systems that attempting them without a fair
> > amount of design and installation experience is not wise.
> >
> > Bill.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: William Miller [mailto:wrmiller at slonet.org]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:42 AM
> > > To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
> > > Subject: RE: Outboard equipment for PV5 [RE-wrenches]
> > >
> > >
> > > At 09:38 PM 6/11/01 -0700, you wrote:
> > > >William,
> > > >
> > > >Trace Tech normally sells their equipment to companies that do their
> own
> > > >design engineering or hire engineers to design their systems for
> > > them. Now
> > > >that they offer smaller inverters, it may seem like they should
> > > provide more
> > > >design input, but they are not currently setup to do this. Remember,
> they
> > > >service a major part of the variable speed wind turbine industry with
> > > >inverters--huge inverters.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Bill:
> > >
> > > Thanks very much for the advice.  I wonder: how do the companies that
> > > design their own systems learn the details about the Trace Tech
> equipment?
> > > I perused the Trace Tech web site and found little or no information
> about
> > > the PV5 (aka 5208, I believe) or the outboard equipment.  Is
> > > there a source
> > > I don't know about so I can limit the questions I need to ask of their
> > > personnel?
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > >
> > > William Miller
> > >
> > >
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