Proposed Changes to C.E.C. rebates in California [RE-wrenches]

[Lynne A Carter]

We have already see this from Y2k. Supply shortages. Goofy systems in bomb
shelters the fall out is just starting to trickle in. This issue is
something suppliers can help us out with ... For example I have seen systems
that were installed incorrectly or poorly here in my reign.  That suppliers
sold to a yahoo a designed over the phone.  So now to bad for the costomer
they can't get service from the yahoo. Certification : BY US we can make the
rules and cerate a real program.  Here in NC the NCSC has a 2 day training
for "licensed electricians "THAT IN NO WAY MAKES THEM A SOLAR INSTALLER".
In fact it adds to the goofiness out there, most electricians need to stick
to wiring houses (standard stuff) not solar or RE systems.  What electrician
wants a costomer calling at midnight screaming about a failed part like (a
trace inverter or something) .

We must create a separate national solar electric code and licensing /
member ship to SolarBozo's.  Or something like Security Systems or HVAC.
There are some of us out here dealing with what I refer to as the "good old
boy" system of state licensing.  If some wanted to became a licensed
electrical contractor in the late 70's or early 80's all that was needed was
to be a (white man) name & address on a piece of toilet paper. Now you need
4000 to 6000 hours working for a "Good old Boy" Try being a woman or woman
minority and getting that job for 2 years or more. (or a liberal solar
installer for that matter)  Only your husband is safe to work with.  I am
Pissed off at these asinine "standard electrical contractor regulations"
enn! - dxlk! opxx! --roexxx! mixslfmx! xxlaglakflk!!!!.
RE INSTALLERS NEW ONES!!!!!!!!!! We need to make it happen!!!!
What makes a real soarbozo a solarbozo (RE Installer) or a real Wrench a
WRENCH ???????
Lyn

Lyn at solarvillage.com
Solar Village Institute inc.
PO Box 14
Saxapahaw, NC  27340
Tel. 336-376-9530
Fax. 336-376-1809
www.solarvillage.com

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Brooks <billbrooks7 at earthlink.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 11:26 PM
Subject: RE: Proposed Changes to C.E.C. rebates in California [RE-wrenches]


> Baran,
>
> I hope your right, but history is not on the side of your opinion. We are
> still suffering the backlash from the early 1980s. The solar thermal DHW
> industry is all but dead because of a lot of unscrupulous people. THERE
> BACK!
>
> Bill.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Baran Galocy [mailto:livewire at c-zone.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 11:08 PM
> > To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
> > Subject: Re: Proposed Changes to C.E.C. rebates in California
> > [RE-wrenches]
> >
> >
> > Wow, sorry!
> >
> > Personally, if I lived in an area where there was no financial
> > incentive for
> > solar, I would do what I could do to create a local / regional /
statewide
> > awareness on the benefits of solar.  Many people (myself included) lobby
> > local officials to do that which will increase the lobbyist's bottom
line.
> > The future supply of fossil fuel is clearly finite and the public is
> > distrustful of nuclear energy.  Fuel cells, when they are commercially
> > available through your local wrench will still deal with highly
flammable
> > hydrogen or hydrocarbons.  One can instill a sense of the true value of
> > photovoltaics, even without rebates and power costing .05/KWH.  I
> > would hope
> > I was preaching to the choir, and yet . . .
> >
> > A simple fact of life is that just because many Californians are
receiving
> > subsidies, it doesn't mean 1) We are going to suck up all of the
supplies
> > because 2) Most of the people who can afford systems (even with rebates)
> > still have no idea what actually owning  one would do for the
> > environment or
> > 3) We are to busy saving for that next WaveRunner or Suburban Assault
> > Vehicle because 4) People such as myself have done a poor job of
educating
> > those who can best afford what we have to offer.  As far as the
> > "fly-by-nighters", I do not believe that we have a serious problem.  One
> > must be licensed and bonded in California in one of several categories
to
> > legally install solar.  Well, that or be an "owner builder", but
> > we won't go
> > there, ok?   I don't walk onto a job without a  liability insurance
policy
> > in full effect.  Will ignorant and opportunistic people enter the
> > trade?  Of
> > course they will!  Will it affect me?  Not in a negative way!
> >
> > I am a wrench because I believe that we should all do our part to
> > leave this
> > planet in better shape than we found it, I enjoy educating people and
the
> > reciprocity and "atta-boys" of a job well done, and I like the
> > money.  It's
> > not even an issue of would I do this if the money weren't there.
> > It's more
> > a need of mine to work with what passes for "cutting edge" ;-)
technology.
> > When inverters can be purchased at Home Depot, I will be
> > designing, selling,
> > and installing fuel cell systems  or whatever represents the next
> > generation.  And so will many of you.   And the clientele will be there,
> > waiting to be educated . . .
> >
> > Rant Off!   Baran
> >
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